[Granite]

I wonder if he hadn't met that woman while at the monastary, and the reason that he saw her when he "warped through time" was because he was delusional, and was pulling random people out of his subconscious mind.

[gabikins]

He was a monk - then he meet penny - when he was breakingup with penny he meet that women.

[vanyvrgs]

Why is it that people are incapable of differentiating between actors? We see two burly older men, and we assume both of them are Tom (Locke's flashback earlier this season), and now we've got the Sheriff and Time Travel lady. And everyone was assuming Henry Gale was related to another black character on the show (because apparently all black people are related). I mean...really people...come on.

Word!    

SO back to topic, Brother's Campbell family member is time travel lady (Ms. Hawkins)... I tried asking this before a few threads down but no one is buying... maybe I just think it is more important than it is so here it is again:

But Brother Campbell says you have a purpose from god and it is not the abbey and Ms. Hawkins had told Desmundo -- "I know your name as well as I know that you don't ask Penny to marry you. In fact, you break her heart. Well, breaking her heart, of course, is what drives you in a few short years from now to enter that sailing race to prove her father wrong. Which brings you to the island where you spend the next 3 years of your life entering numbers into the computer...until you are forced to turn that failsafe key. And if you don't do those things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of US is dead."


Is it a coincidence or were these two badly photoshopped "relatives" already in cahoots and know Desmond was not meant to hide in the abbey -- so sent him to what was next?  Penny.

I certainly think both can see the future and he may have been receiving guidance since then..... which brings me to another point .. if that is true since Des has already saved the freaking world, wouldn't Ms. Hawkins and Brotha campbell all know that he needs freaking rescue....

I know am all over the place, but bear with moi. 

[gabikins]

Completely understood, but then it could be argued that claires fortune teller man, would know that they are on the island and hasn't sent help. 

[vanyvrgs]

Completely understood, but then it could be argued that claires fortune teller man, would know that they are on the island and hasn't sent help. 

But that dude was a fake.  ANyway, I struggled with that only because at the time I had thought fortune telling ass had sent Claire to the island with knowledge and forethought of the crash and that he was related to DI.  Then he turned out to be a complete fake.  So now I still say that someone had a hand in her coming to America -- maybe Christian Sheppard just cause I do not want it to be a coincidence, but I think no one knew they would crash in the island.  However that is not the topic here so lets move on. 

At least Hawkins knew he would be in the island and that his purpose was to save the world by turning the failsafe which has passed, so they know he is still on the island and prob that rescue is on its way.  The point was whether they worked together, Brother Campbell and Ms. Hawkins -- and knew his purpose early on and Brother Campbell knew he had to introduce him to Penny since eventually she would bring rescue?

[gabikins]

But how do we know that he knew he would be sent to the island, because the women only told him about the round the world trip.
As for claires fortune teler, he did tell her lies but then stalked her to tell her she had to listen to him and she refused, was it not him who told her to go to LA.

[vanyvrgs]

But how do we know that he knew he would be sent to the island, because the women only told him about the round the world trip.
As for claires fortune teler, he did tell her lies but then stalked her to tell her she had to listen to him and she refused, was it not him who told her to go to LA.

Yes, but he could not see the future at all, he likely got money from Sheppard and went to her to convince her to go.  We found out he could not see the future in Eko's last flashback "?".  Mr. Malkin is a fraud psychic, he tells Eko he is a fraud psychic and his wife Joyce is tyring to spite him and that he gathers information on people and exploits it.  Then again, maybe nothing was exchanged with Sheppard and he just found a couple in LA and wanted cash, but again that is not the topic here and I have enought trouble keeping people in topic when we stay with one episode. 


On topic -- Gabi, read the posts you are responding to, I posted what Ms. Hawkins said below -- here it is again: "I know your name as well as I know that you don't ask Penny to marry you. In fact, you break her heart. Well, breaking her heart, of course, is what drives you in a few short years from now to enter that sailing race to prove her father wrong. Which brings you to the island where you spend the next 3 years of your life entering numbers into the computer...until you are forced to turn that failsafe key. And if you don't do those things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of US is dead."

[gabikins]

oh ok, i thought he emmitted to being a fraud, but indeed actually have a proper vision, the episode was a while back my uptake must not be up to scratch on it.

Oh ok, but i don't think he would ahe told penny, i think he would have disregarded it as he thought it was freaky and impossible.

Sorry, but thanks for clearing that up. 

[corps413]

Mr. Malkin is a fraud psychic, he tells Eko he is a fraud psychic and his wife Joyce is tyring to spite him and that he gathers information on people and exploits it.  Posted by: vanyvrgs

Interesting, isn't that what Ben does? I know it's off topic but interestin none the less.

[Creampop]

I just wanted to point out that the woman seen in the PROMO pic during Ben's surgery is neither woman..... as mentioned before she was prolly part of the crew and peeked thru when the photo was taken...


http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-promos/sea3/ido/ido-promo15.jpg


Now back to subject.... I believe that Brother Campbell got word from Ms. Hawkins and she is the reason he was let go....

[BurgyBoy]

I didn't notice the woman in the pic.

In the brief time it was on screen, I thought the man was Locke.

[turbo]

I don't think that lady every made it to that episode.

That picture of her in the window was just a promo, and never happened in the actual episode.
Or atleast that's what I think.

[vanyvrgs]

I don't think that lady every made it to that episode.

That picture of her in the window was just a promo, and never happened in the actual episode.
Or atleast that's what I think.

It was a promo pic I believe but lets try to get back to topic.
Not Ms. Hawkins anyway.

Now back to subject.... I believe that Brother Campbell got word from Ms. Hawkins and she is the reason he was let go....

You think he got a call from Ms. Hawkins... interesting.  At this point and for the next 5 minutes, my theory is that they both knew who he was brought him to the abbey and knew when he needed to be "fired" to catch a ride with Penelope, they also knew eventually Pen and him would break up and that he would finish on the island to prove Pen's dad wrong.  When the implosion happened they knew he would likely have learned from his mistake and was not going to have the commitment issues he had earlier and would marry Penny so enter Ms. Hawkins in the jewerly store to tell him he had to do what he did the first time around (and surprisingly he listened to the old goat).  Ms. Hawkins knew that if she gave him a higher purpose he would fall for it since she was aware from his time at the monastery that was what he wanted.   Wheter Ms. Hawkins and Brother Campbell's purpose was indeed to save the world by having Desmond turn the failsafe, I dunno....  I think the ultimate saving of the world would come from Penny, one day, hopefully during season 5!

[Fullforce]

I think the monk picture is supposed to look bad, almost as if she's been added in the past as she follows Desmond around. I think it'd be blatantly obvious that was a bad 'shop when they put the frame together and took the shots.

[Creampop]

but there have been other bad photoshopped pics.... as I said before the picture was only scanned by quickly and I think that was done cus they knew it was a bad job and scannin by it quickly would make people be like WTF?? I do buy into the theory of Brother Campbell and Ms. Hawkins plotting from the time he was found passed out in the street, again thus knowing he had a bigger road ahead of him.