[E gratis?]

Geez, I'm sure someone can (and should).  Unfortunately, as part of my own 12 step program, I allow myself only one TV show (and, well, LOST won) so I couldn't possibly be the person to make those connections.  Do like the Bate man tho!!

[Sandman2012]

Geez, I'm sure someone can (and should).  Unfortunately, as part of my own 12 step program, I allow myself only one TV show (and, well, LOST won) so I couldn't possibly be the person to make those connections.  Do like the Bate man tho!!

Are you a member of TV Anonymous?

[E gratis?]

Are you a member of TV Anonymous?

  My secret's out. 

'LOST' 12 STEP PROGRAM
WRITTEN BY "LOST_ANGYL"
FROM THE OCEANIC FORUMS
 
Step 1
Admit that you have a problem.

Step 2
Outline a reasonable daily schedule for yourself, to include your 'Lost' addiction, but not to let 'Lost' rule your life.

Step 3
Actually attempt to follow that schedule.

Step 4
Try not to bring food, drinks, or catheters to your computer so that you have to actually get up every once in awhile.

Step 5
Acknowledge that conversations with your spouse, friends, kids, pets, and self does not have to always be about 'Lost'. Try to let others lead the conversation so that you can at least create the illusion that your mind is not on something else.

Step 6
Try to watch an entire episode without freeze framing every millisecond to catch a glimpse of something you can be the first to write about on the message boards.

Step 7
Cut out an additional 2 hours from your time on the message boards.

Step 8
Realize that cutting two hours of posting on the boards does not mean that you can still sit and read them during that time.

Step 9
Stop getting more excited to see your forum friends than your real friends.

Step 10
Finally get to the point of only spending 1 hour in a 'Lost' forum every night (and not 1 hour per 'Lost' forum, 1 hour total).

Step 11
Stop obsessing about 'Lost' so much that you actually dream about it.

Step 12
Realize that 12 step programs don't work for 'Lost' junkies and all of your hard work was for naught.

(This is completely, totally, absolutely lifted from http://www.lostlinks.net/12step.htm


 

[Peel]

Quality

man I'm in deep shit I don't even feel I have a problem 

[Betz]

lol same here i dnt have a problem.. 

[E gratis?]

Step 5 is the hardest for me.  "What do you mean, you don't watch LOST?!?!" *grabs chest, inhales deeply, quickly*

Sandy, sorry I've hijacked your RAW thread.  

[d8w/f8]

Well, it sounds like a good system, but the net result is me alternating between Lost Addiction and a new found RAW addiction ( and sometimes combining them...)

Hmmmmm.....thanks anyway!

[E gratis?]

Hey, d8w/f8y, couldn't have said it better myself.  It's off to the library for me!

[TheCrater]

Is watching Lost alone the first sign of addiction?

Sung to the tune of George Thorogood's "I Drink Alone":

I watch Lost alone, yeah
With nobody else
You know when I watch Lost alone
I prefer to be by myself

Every morning just before breakfast
I don't want no coffee or tea
Just me and my good buddy Lost
That's all I ever need
'Cause I watch Lost alone... 

[TheCrater]

Hey, d8w/f8y, couldn't have said it better myself.  It's off to the library for me!

Good luck finding RAW in your local library! It's about as available as a Charles Bukowski book. People don't tend to want to return them...

[~dukeLavellE~]

I recently found that one of his publishers has excerpts from some of his books online, including the 1986 preface to a book called Cosmic Trigger, which was an autobiographical account of a lot of very weird things that happened to Wilson over the course of about ten years from the mid-sixties to the mid-seventies. It's a great introduction to the type of thinking I usually apply when interpreting Lost, and I felt that it might raise some interesting points of discussion as well as letting some of you here understand a little of where my point of view comes from.

the article is very interesting, thx sandman. Really, "the menu is not the meal". The words don't actually determine the meaning, they signify them. Just like our perceptions and conceptions signify the reality. Saussure had some real inetersting views on this manner (a linguistic approach); and Lacan. While defining the realm of the real, Lacan said that it's all fulness and completeness; you have no need that can't be satisfied/and he also said that because there's no absence or lack, there was no need for language in the Real. And he came to a conclusion that the Real was beyond language/unrepresentable in language. When we start talking, representing things and happenings with words, we loose the tiny connection with reality. And there's the realm of imaginary; it's a realm of images and based on specular imaging. We percieve ourselves as 'I', but we're not aware of that 'I' is a misrecognition and as Lacan calls, a fantasy. We mistake our being with what we see in the mirror. So we have an 'otherness' in our essence. We are an other, indeed. To reach the 'otherness' is what everyone wants, and the place everything in the system wants to be. Overlapping with your other self? And Lacan says that the position of the other creates and sustains a 'never-ending lack', (everyone is structured by this lack) which he calls desire. He refers desire as the center of the system, the center of the symbolic and the center of language itself. As Wilson says in this article, "reality is always plural & mutable", and prefers the term 'realities' instead. "Realities involving ourselves as editors". We're so far away from the 'real' thing, we're not even aware we're in this kinda situation. What hits me most in Wilson's article are these lines: "I soon found myself in metaphysical hot water. It became urgently obvious that my previous models and metaphors would not and could not account for what I was experiencing. I therefore had to create new models and metaphors as I went along. Since I was dealing with matters outside consensus reality-tunnels, some of my metaphors are rather extraordinary. That does not bother me, since I am at least as much an artist as a psychologist, but it does bother me when people take these metaphors too literally." That's what everyone needs (including losties): creating new models and metaphors as we go on; or at least try to grasp the 'meaning' of what this guy suggests here. And try not to take these metaphors so seriously, because if we stick to the activity of finding the 'realities' of circumstances surrounding us, we may miss the point that realities in fact are perceptions, places to visit (if we can) and all we determine to be defining them, might come out as empty or unnecessary.
anywayz, thx again for the article man. I'll do a research about this guy and try to get into it asap.

[E gratis?]

Is watching Lost alone the first sign of addiction?

Sung to the tune of George Thorogood's "I Drink Alone":

I watch Lost alone, yeah
With nobody else
You know when I watch Lost alone
I prefer to be by myself

Every morning just before breakfast
I don't want no coffee or tea
Just me and my good buddy Lost
That's all I ever need
'Cause I watch Lost alone... 

Hey, Cratey.  That's VERY funny.  (chewy karma for you.)  Are you a GT fan?

[d8w/f8]

Hey, I got lucky and found 3 of RAW's books at Half Price Books! Woohoo!

The library was a bust for me, however.

[E gratis?]

Amazon has scads.  I'm not sure if I can wait, tho.

[Sandman2012]

Hey, I got lucky and found 3 of RAW's books at Half Price Books! Woohoo!

The library was a bust for me, however.

Which ones did you get?