[Betz]

yeh maybe dharma just wanna the whole god daymn world, the island is enuff!

[YorkusRex]

Regardless of whether or not this ties into the series, it's a very interesting read.

Thanks for posting this info.

[Betz]

yes i forgot to say thankyou, thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou, ( sorry stupid god damn limit)

[h_van_statten]

I like this, and it explains all the weird mixtures of ancient cultures/symbology (horrible Dan Brown esque word there) nicely.

[Steveagain]

An Ascended Master is an individual who has undergone the process of ascension. Throughout history, there have been stories of these individuals who have reached a higher state of spiritual awareness and placed themselves in service to humanity.

They are also said to have undergone a process of spiritual transformation, they are attentive to the spiritual growth of humanity and also act as guides to humanity’s spiritual growth.

Ascended Masters are also said to be avid in the process of reincarnation, sometimes doing it many times over the span of thousands of years.

Possibly more Stargate than Lost ?

[E gratis?]

Possibly more Stargate than Lost ?

All in all it seems like a great theory (although now I wish I hadn't read it because if it turns out to be correct I'll be really bummed 'cause I don't read spoilers for the obvious reasons; I like surprises)  Anyway, the only things I can't get behind are the statements  "....and including 'the dawn of time' part is an indication of his (Hanso's) actual age" and the section where pubclear talks about 'the books' and that they're 'potentially hazardous'.  I axe, potentially hazardous to whom? Humanity, The NUM or to the 'wrong hands'?

[pubclear]

Just to make a few elaborations...

the potentially hazerdous part refers to the fact that it would be hazerdous to human advancement.  I.e. if they have the data and information to make several different doomsday devices, it would be hazerdous to humanity if it were in the wrong hands.  The NUM are the guardians of information that we arent "ready for" yet

the referrence to stargate is a valid one...whereas my own opinion on this is that i feel that the portion about the Nine Unknown Men is more valid than the portion of the ascended master.  I included the info about the AM in my theory because thats how I found out about the NUM in the first place (through theosophist research)

the immaculate conception can produce either a male or a female...however, it is only the female descenedant that can immacualtely conceive (obviously).  I never said that locke's mother, danielle, or claire were immaculately conceived.

[E gratis?]

Just to make a few elaborations...

the potentially hazerdous part refers to the fact that it would be hazerdous to human advancement.  I.e. if they have the data and information to make several different doomsday devices, it would be hazerdous to humanity if it were in the wrong hands.  The NUM are the guardians of information that we arent "ready for" yet

That's what I thought you meant, but I wasn't sure 'cause it could have been hazardous to the 'wrong hands' if the NUM were able to use the information against them.  Which it could, I guess.  Right?  They might as well use the information (that they're spending tons of money to protect) against them, the 'wrong hands'.  Do they have access to it as well?

[Lockdown]

Occam's Razor...the simpliest explanation is usually the correct one.  I just dumbed everything down to simplicity and it made a lot fo things make sense.

I'm afraid I don't quite buy this one. How do we know Danielle's baby was immaculately concieved? 

Thats a really cool story bout the Nine Unknown Men but its really loosely coupled with the show. You talk about the nine unknown men a lot but when it comes to paralleling the show with them then you make rather unplausible connections like Locke's mother is the (reincarnated?) daughter of Alvar Hanso or one of these Ascended Masters. I'll eat my hat if your theory pans out but until then Ockham's razor meant that when posed with a situation the explanation with least assumptions, and which requires the least suspending of plausible belief is most likely the correct one. Since the producers have claimed everything is logically explainable with no supernatural stuff, I find this theory requires a huge amount of suspended belief to be able to pan out.
You obviously put a fair amount of work into this though, and you seem to take your theory making very seriously so nice work on the sci fi stuff.

[pubclear]

my response to that is the kind of response i gave to someone before.  someone said to me that it was unplausable because we are almost through the second season and there has been no mention of it...HOWEVER...we were entirely through the first season and we had no mention of DHARMA...and now we are completely obsessed with it.  the producers said that DHARMA is only a small part of the big picture, and thats why i made this theory.  I believe that the only way we are to figure out what is going on is to COMPLETELY decentralize DHARMA and think outside of them


and as i mentioned before, i will not stand by the ascended masters portion of my thoery nearly as much as I will the NUM portion.  I believe that NUm is correct or very close, and if you read about it, im almost certain you will agree.

[radarlove]

Didnt Locke's mother mention in Series 1 that he was immaculately conceived ?

[Yuzi]

Didnt Locke's mother mention in Series 1 that he was immaculately conceived ?

yeh she did... but it was a lie, to get him to give his kidney up... , his dad basically played "the long con" on him

[radarlove]

I quite agree yuzi but it just clicked in my mind when it was mentioned earlier, maybe theres more to the 'immaculate conception' idea than meets the eye ? Another bluff by Lindelof and Abrams, Or a hidden meaning ?

[Lockdown]

I believe that the only way we are to figure out what is going on...

I think I am going to have to hang up my thinking cap in that case. I don't want to figure it out before we're shown it. Good luck.


p.s. in respone to your response, you didn't actually respond to anything i said.

[pubclear]

it was a general response to all inquiries.

in season one, if anyone were to say there was a guy as part of an intricate system of experiments in the hatch which was controlled by some initiative called DHARMA in mid season one, wed discredit it just as well.