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« on: May 02, 2006, 11:38:20 PM »

The Valenzetti Equation Theory

The Valenzetti Equation is a mathematical relationship that is used to predict the future (crudely speaking).  It is a type of mathematical forecasting.  The map mentions an area of the island that has “Low Relevance to Valenzetti Research”.  So, what is happening on the island and where does this equation come into play.

The DHARMA initiative was an active project with the Hanso Foundation, however it is no longer on the Hanso Foundation website.  That is because the DHARMA initiative has completed.  It seems that all of the active projects of the Hanso Foundation seem to focus on future betterment of everything.  This is because the Hanso Foundation is using the Valenzetti Equation to predict changes in the world.  The Valenzetti Equation analysis is the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative on the HF active projects.

In more general terms, the island belongs to the HF.  This is why Alvar Hanso addressed the UN in 1967, so that he could present his ideas to the UN and they could decide on an isolated place in the world where this research could be performed.

The stated goal of the DHARMA initiative according to the map is the Repatriation Accelerated Deterritorialization of Polar Bears with genetic therapy and extreme climate change.  In English, this basically means that the goal of the DHARMA initiative was to take polar bears out of their natural environment and see if they could basically de-evolve the polar bear back to its non-cold dependant state.  Polar bears evolved from the standard brown bear (their DNA only varies by a small percent along the lines of a hundredth of a percent) due to a change in climate, so gene therapy and climate change would theoretically be able to de-evolve the polar bear back to the state of a brown bear and maybe even into a new state (one that can tolerate high temperatures).

They did this because the Valenzetti Equation predicted that the polar bears would be extinct.  The results of the DHARMA initiative show that it is possible to save animals from extinction, or moreover, it is possible to change the environment dependence of an animal.

Whether this was the only goal of the DHARMA initiative is unclear, however, it appears that DHARMA is completely dismantled. 

The Hanso Foundation also has the Mental Health Appeal.  If you look on the bios of the executive, you will see that the man all the way on the right had cancer of some sort, and after the Hanso Foundation cured him, he was offered a job with the HF as an executive.  Remember how Libby was in the mental institution?  The HF cured her with this initiative, and then hired her as an executive (The Liddy chick).

The Valenzetti Equation also predicts certain diseases that would happen on the planet.  This is where the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program comes into play.  The sickness that Danielle and company encountered was the disease that the VE predicted and that the WWPDP spread on the island.  It was done to develop a prevention of the disease when it hits the world.

The HF has a Genomic Advancement Program, which is a program that creates ways for human advancement pre-emptively or even during adulthood.  This could be the drug that is being implanted in Claire, or the drug that the people who man the hatch are taking, which is a way of creating a genomic advancement research.  The idea being that maybe pushing the button is a way of telling whether the advancement is working.  You have two guys down in the hatch for a year and a half who have to push the button every 108 minutes for that long.  Maybe the first people down there didn’t last all 540 days, so the drug was changed, and then the next group was sent in and maybe they lasted longer, but not the entire 540 days and so on. 

It is possible that eventually, a pair of people lasted 540 days, and so they changed the experiment to see the results of one person: Desmond.  The reason Desmond crashed isn’t revealed, but I bet when we do find out, it will be HF related.  This program is also used to find cures.

The EM research project that EVERYONE talks about could actually be quite simple.  It is relatively unclear what exactly is being researched, but the Valenzetti Equation most likely predicts a change in the magnetic field of the earth, and so the magnet on the island is used to change the true north of the island.  I don’t know what effects of this true north shift are being analyzed, but I will get into this later.

Finally, the Life Extension Project has to do with Joop.  I don’t think Joop is on the island, but he may be important.  I will discuss that later.

To sum up the first part of this theory, the Island is an independent land where the HF has acquired worldwide permission to use for research related to the Valenzetti Equation.  There are multiple research teams on the island as of right now and each of them are independent of the other.  Remember when the producers asked “did Ethan know Goodwin?”  They are part of two different research teams.  Which means that the plane was separated for a reason.

We shall start with the middle section of the plane.  Part of the WWPDP is to show that people live better and fuller lives when they are isolated from complications and have only simplistic issues to deal with.  Now, I understand that a plane crash on an island isn’t exactly a “simplistic” issue, but they are living better now.  They have things provided to them, simple as they may be (water, food, shelter).  They also have a basic collaboration of skilled people, meaning that the skills/personalities are diverse and useful enough to create a good enough general society for the purpose of this research.  The reason for this is because the Valenzetti Equation predicts a coming event that is going to cause catastrophe and the ultimate result is going to be a limited number of survivors forced to form a universal community similar to the crash.

(As a better example explanation, if there is a catastrophic natural event to happen on Earth that kills off the majority of people on the planet as well as a great deal of technology, the disorientation of the people who survive would be almost exactly the same as the disorientation of the people in the plane crash.  The difference is that the plane crash is just a smaller scale example.)

The ultimate purpose of this portion is to see how well they survive and what would be needed to ultimately recreate society after a high-extinction event.

The tail section was mainly a part of the Genomic Advancement Project.  This is most likely to increase the speed of mental development.  Remember when we saw Alex?  She seemed extremely advanced for a 16 year old girl.  A more generalized explanation could be this.  Let us say that the VE predicts the a catastrophic to happen 15 years from now.  It would be VERY beneficial for the children as of right now to develop mentally at an accelerated rate so that when the end comes, the younger people are more advanced and helpful than they would have been otherwise.  Also, they can see the effects of advancing adults as well.

Of course, Claire was an outlier.  She was taken for her kid obviously as part of the GAP, which means that there may be some kind of overlapping of research teams.

Assuming Libby is actually the HF executive in charge of the Mental Health Appeal, she is probably intentionally hanging around Hurley to see if the situation on the island is helpful to Hurley’s mental health (i.e. is it making it better/)

I know my descriptions are kind of sketchy and all over the place, so to give things a bit more order, here is a timeline.

Alvar Hanso addresses the UN to gain permission and access to conduct Valenzetti research on a remote location that the general world powers would keep secret from the rest of the world.

The HF sponsors the DHARMA Initiative to use the island as a result of the prediction by the VE about the extinction of Polar Bears.

The Incident occurs.  If we assume the incident was fabricated, this would indicate the beginning of the GAP experiment with genetic enhancers.  If the incident was real, it may refers to two separate research teams finding each other.  Mainly, the Incident is VERY ambiguous and I think that we probably wont be able to infer what exactly happened and why it was an “incident”.

A control tower begins to broadcast the numbers, resulting in Danielle’s boat crashing on the island.  The “sickness” is a disease created by the WWPDP as a result of the VE predicting this outbreak in the future.  The quarantine words are spray painted in the manned hatches so the people in them are not exposed to the sickness.

The cure for the disease is released on the island in the form of a “field” such that it remains there.  This cure may actually not just cure the disease, but other ailments as well (resulting in the cures of Locke, Rose, and Jin).

Desmond’s boat crashes on the island and he is taken to the hatch by Kelvin to predicate another experiment.

Kelvin “dies”.

The plane crashes, initiating more research projects as described above.

Basically, the VE is used by the HF to predict coming disasters.  The HF has the approval of the UN to use the island as a generalized research area.  The HF also has their approval to use methods that would be considered unlawful to conduct this research (intentionally causing a plane crash, using people as lab rats etc.).  The reason is because the VE predicts the end of the world and the HF wants to ensure the continuation of the human race.  The numbers are probably a result of the VE or a solution of the VE or something of that sort.

I will talk about this more (add more details and such), but its late right now and I feel like sleep.

 
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 11:42:32 PM »

The Valenzetti Equation Theory

The Valenzetti Equation is a mathematical relationship that is used to predict the future (crudely speaking).  It is a type of mathematical forecasting.  The map mentions an area of the island that has “Low Relevance to Valenzetti Research”.  So, what is happening on the island and where does this equation come into play.

The DHARMA initiative was an active project with the Hanso Foundation, however it is no longer on the Hanso Foundation website.  That is because the DHARMA initiative has completed.  It seems that all of the active projects of the Hanso Foundation seem to focus on future betterment of everything.  This is because the Hanso Foundation is using the Valenzetti Equation to predict changes in the world.  The Valenzetti Equation analysis is the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative on the HF active projects.

In more general terms, the island belongs to the HF.  This is why Alvar Hanso addressed the UN in 1967, so that he could present his ideas to the UN and they could decide on an isolated place in the world where this research could be performed.

The stated goal of the DHARMA initiative according to the map is the Repatriation Accelerated Deterritorialization of Polar Bears with genetic therapy and extreme climate change.  In English, this basically means that the goal of the DHARMA initiative was to take polar bears out of their natural environment and see if they could basically de-evolve the polar bear back to its non-cold dependant state.  Polar bears evolved from the standard brown bear (their DNA only varies by a small percent along the lines of a hundredth of a percent) due to a change in climate, so gene therapy and climate change would theoretically be able to de-evolve the polar bear back to the state of a brown bear and maybe even into a new state (one that can tolerate high temperatures).

They did this because the Valenzetti Equation predicted that the polar bears would be extinct.  The results of the DHARMA initiative show that it is possible to save animals from extinction, or moreover, it is possible to change the environment dependence of an animal.

Whether this was the only goal of the DHARMA initiative is unclear, however, it appears that DHARMA is completely dismantled. 

The Hanso Foundation also has the Mental Health Appeal.  If you look on the bios of the executive, you will see that the man all the way on the right had cancer of some sort, and after the Hanso Foundation cured him, he was offered a job with the HF as an executive.  Remember how Libby was in the mental institution?  The HF cured her with this initiative, and then hired her as an executive (The Liddy chick).

The Valenzetti Equation also predicts certain diseases that would happen on the planet.  This is where the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program comes into play.  The sickness that Danielle and company encountered was the disease that the VE predicted and that the WWPDP spread on the island.  It was done to develop a prevention of the disease when it hits the world.

The HF has a Genomic Advancement Program, which is a program that creates ways for human advancement pre-emptively or even during adulthood.  This could be the drug that is being implanted in Claire, or the drug that the people who man the hatch are taking, which is a way of creating a genomic advancement research.  The idea being that maybe pushing the button is a way of telling whether the advancement is working.  You have two guys down in the hatch for a year and a half who have to push the button every 108 minutes for that long.  Maybe the first people down there didn’t last all 540 days, so the drug was changed, and then the next group was sent in and maybe they lasted longer, but not the entire 540 days and so on. 

It is possible that eventually, a pair of people lasted 540 days, and so they changed the experiment to see the results of one person: Desmond.  The reason Desmond crashed isn’t revealed, but I bet when we do find out, it will be HF related.  This program is also used to find cures.

The EM research project that EVERYONE talks about could actually be quite simple.  It is relatively unclear what exactly is being researched, but the Valenzetti Equation most likely predicts a change in the magnetic field of the earth, and so the magnet on the island is used to change the true north of the island.  I don’t know what effects of this true north shift are being analyzed, but I will get into this later.

Finally, the Life Extension Project has to do with Joop.  I don’t think Joop is on the island, but he may be important.  I will discuss that later.

To sum up the first part of this theory, the Island is an independent land where the HF has acquired worldwide permission to use for research related to the Valenzetti Equation.  There are multiple research teams on the island as of right now and each of them are independent of the other.  Remember when the producers asked “did Ethan know Goodwin?”  They are part of two different research teams.  Which means that the plane was separated for a reason.

We shall start with the middle section of the plane.  Part of the WWPDP is to show that people live better and fuller lives when they are isolated from complications and have only simplistic issues to deal with.  Now, I understand that a plane crash on an island isn’t exactly a “simplistic” issue, but they are living better now.  They have things provided to them, simple as they may be (water, food, shelter).  They also have a basic collaboration of skilled people, meaning that the skills/personalities are diverse and useful enough to create a good enough general society for the purpose of this research.  The reason for this is because the Valenzetti Equation predicts a coming event that is going to cause catastrophe and the ultimate result is going to be a limited number of survivors forced to form a universal community similar to the crash.

(As a better example explanation, if there is a catastrophic natural event to happen on Earth that kills off the majority of people on the planet as well as a great deal of technology, the disorientation of the people who survive would be almost exactly the same as the disorientation of the people in the plane crash.  The difference is that the plane crash is just a smaller scale example.)

The ultimate purpose of this portion is to see how well they survive and what would be needed to ultimately recreate society after a high-extinction event.

The tail section was mainly a part of the Genomic Advancement Project.  This is most likely to increase the speed of mental development.  Remember when we saw Alex?  She seemed extremely advanced for a 16 year old girl.  A more generalized explanation could be this.  Let us say that the VE predicts the a catastrophic to happen 15 years from now.  It would be VERY beneficial for the children as of right now to develop mentally at an accelerated rate so that when the end comes, the younger people are more advanced and helpful than they would have been otherwise.  Also, they can see the effects of advancing adults as well.

Of course, Claire was an outlier.  She was taken for her kid obviously as part of the GAP, which means that there may be some kind of overlapping of research teams.

Assuming Libby is actually the HF executive in charge of the Mental Health Appeal, she is probably intentionally hanging around Hurley to see if the situation on the island is helpful to Hurley’s mental health (i.e. is it making it better/)

I know my descriptions are kind of sketchy and all over the place, so to give things a bit more order, here is a timeline.

Alvar Hanso addresses the UN to gain permission and access to conduct Valenzetti research on a remote location that the general world powers would keep secret from the rest of the world.

The HF sponsors the DHARMA Initiative to use the island as a result of the prediction by the VE about the extinction of Polar Bears.

The Incident occurs.  If we assume the incident was fabricated, this would indicate the beginning of the GAP experiment with genetic enhancers.  If the incident was real, it may refers to two separate research teams finding each other.  Mainly, the Incident is VERY ambiguous and I think that we probably wont be able to infer what exactly happened and why it was an “incident”.

A control tower begins to broadcast the numbers, resulting in Danielle’s boat crashing on the island.  The “sickness” is a disease created by the WWPDP as a result of the VE predicting this outbreak in the future.  The quarantine words are spray painted in the manned hatches so the people in them are not exposed to the sickness.

The cure for the disease is released on the island in the form of a “field” such that it remains there.  This cure may actually not just cure the disease, but other ailments as well (resulting in the cures of Locke, Rose, and Jin).

Desmond’s boat crashes on the island and he is taken to the hatch by Kelvin to predicate another experiment.

Kelvin “dies”.

The plane crashes, initiating more research projects as described above.

Basically, the VE is used by the HF to predict coming disasters.  The HF has the approval of the UN to use the island as a generalized research area.  The HF also has their approval to use methods that would be considered unlawful to conduct this research (intentionally causing a plane crash, using people as lab rats etc.).  The reason is because the VE predicts the end of the world and the HF wants to ensure the continuation of the human race.  The numbers are probably a result of the VE or a solution of the VE or something of that sort.

I will talk about this more (add more details and such), but its late right now and I feel like sleep.

 


Very good.  I like this theory, and especially that you did all of this research. Karma for you, pubclear.  Well played.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 05:02:50 AM »

Good stuff.  I like the emphasis on trying to create some sort of utopian or post-catastrophic society which the losties are, in a nutshell.  I've thought that for awhile myself, particularly since there is a splice in the orientation film right on the word "utopian." 
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2006, 10:03:39 AM »

Very good theory, well thought out.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 08:55:25 PM »

This is probably the best and most comprehensive background piece ive read. But it doesnt answer many of the quetions we see on the show. For example. Why are they "taking" the "good" people? Are they trying to prevent the society from stablizing?
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2006, 08:26:19 PM »

Nice man! and clear too! I wished I would hav written that!
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 03:51:14 PM »

I assume you have seen this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenzetti...
Whilst I would normally dismiss Wiki entries until proven otherwise, I was directed there from the main ABC Lost site...

Newish ABC experience section see:
http://blogs.abc.com/inside_the_experience/
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2006, 03:56:10 AM »

IMPORTANT - THE VALENZETTI EQUATION

ENZO VALENZETTI - who is sed to be the person who created the equation sed to be on a trns-european flight which disappeared, and a guy called Gary Troup who invetisgetd the valenzetti equation was on flight 815 which went missing in 2004
"Oceanic Flight 815 was flying from Sydney to Los Angeles when it mysteriously disappeared from radar at approximately 3:24pm, September 22, 2004"

Just a freak accident ?? what do you think ? - maybe the story of lost is to do with this ??

check out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenzetti it explains it all - maybe though, its not all what it seems to be Huh Huh
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 01:39:42 PM »

go check out that wikipedia entry, it's not gonna be there for long    Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2006, 04:53:48 PM »

Ha ha, saved the page just in case :-)

Could be a double wammy, Mind you, I could be cracking up.....

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2006, 05:32:55 PM »

so the valenzetti equation is a fabrication of bad twin and lost?
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 05:41:50 PM »

so the valenzetti equation is a fabrication of bad twin and lost?

back when Lockdown aired I googled Valenzetti and the only name that came up was... Enzo Valenzetti, from an Italian site, nothing to do with the show whatsoever, and now these fake wiki entries with the same name, funny  Grin

It's probably the reason behind the numbers, or more probably the reason behind the finding of the numbers but it's still fictional, I mean we've been finding lots of stuff when they refered to Skinner for example but here, nada
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2006, 12:46:16 AM »

HOLY CRAP! That's pretty awesome! Karma to you pubman!
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2006, 01:18:49 AM »

I think Dharma Infinity's post pretty much sums it up.  That is the hands-down best theory I have seen so far.  Not that I've seen many theories, but this one makes so much sense that I honestly believe that you may have just figured out the mystery of Lost.  The only thing your theory doesn't explain perfectly and in great detail is the Others, but from everything else you said it can pretty much be assumed that they are the remnants of the research team.

back when Lockdown aired I googled Valenzetti and the only name that came up was... Enzo Valenzetti, from an Italian site, nothing to do with the show whatsoever, and now these fake wiki entries with the same name, funny  Grin
No offense or anything, but I just can't help but shout this:  A MODERATOR IS WRONG!  Sorry, it's just that I don't think I've ever seen you been wrong about anything before, Peel.  It has been confirmed by the ARG that Enzo Valenzetti does exist and, what's more, that he grew up in Italy!  So yes, it has very much to do with the show (or at least the expreience) and the wiki entry on Valenzetti now, for the time being, redirects to "The Valenzetti Equation" (Book) under the Gary Troup Article.

I did find this article (pdf) in a google search, which is very interesting and sounds somewhat familiar.  If it's true that this guy (fictionally) solved Fermat's last theorum, he truly is a genious and someone with the capabilites of creating such an equation, if possible.

I think this entire theory is very interesting, and a tremendous kudos to you, Pubclear for thinking it up.  This theory just feels like it actually could be right, perhaps because I can't think of a single hole and it makes a lot of sense with everything we've learned so far.  That is the test of an ultimate theory; that it predicts what its supposed to even after its publication.  That's how Mendeleev recieved fame for the Periodic Table of the Elements and if things keep going as they are in the ARG, we may soon find out that your theory has quite a foundation (pardon the pun) to stand on.

Two thumbs up, and more if I had them!
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2006, 01:25:02 AM »

The Valenzetti Equation by Gary Troup is briefly mentioned in this interview - http://www.lostlinks.net/troup-q.htm

Apparently, the Hanso Foundation took every copy of the book they could get their hands on - perhaps they didn't want anyone catching on to the Island project.
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