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DharmaSecrets.comLost WorldSeason 3 Episode Discussion3x05: The Cost Of LivingThe monster has shown himself to more than we believe...
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vanyvrgs
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« on: November 01, 2006, 10:03:53 PM »
So the monster is the source of all the apparations on the island?  I am sure I will merge this to something already existing but who could be causing these apparations ect, since the others are the only ones who know everything about the losties past and who else can be the source of these apparitions?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 10:04:50 PM »
im not sure i understand the question
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 10:05:41 PM »
I'm really puzzled as to why Yemi said this. What would the Island (assuming that the Island is the cause of Yemi's apperances, and I think it is) think Eko would see Yemi as? It came to Eko in the form of his brother, and if that were to happen to me, I'd sure as hell speak to it as if it were my brother, not the Island, although Eko must have known it was the Island deep down inside. Maybe the Island is trying to learn from them?
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 10:12:29 PM »
Before the Cerberus System attacked Eko it made some noise that I could have swore was something coherent. If anyone knows what it said post here or go back and watch it. Thanks guys I so wish I would have recorded that.       
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 10:15:48 PM »
I just rewatched my tape, and all I heard was a loud hummmmmmmmm before it grabbed him.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 10:17:43 PM »
It said something before it attacked Eko. If  anyone knows please post soon. Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 10:18:13 PM »
whyd you make 2 post?
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 10:19:47 PM »
If you take away a supernatural cause, then I would think it has to be controlled by the others, considering they know everything about everyone there.  Guess Ben didn't like Ekos confession.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2006, 10:21:35 PM »
Eko didn't confess and I am wondering if that is the point... if Eko had repented would he have lived???
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2006, 10:24:00 PM »
Ok, I'm not exactly sure why I got merged....anyways...

Quote from: Creampop on November 01, 2006, 10:21:35 PM
Eko didn't confess and I am wondering if that is the point... if Eko had repented would he have lived???

I really don't know, but something tells me it wouldn't have. I've always seen the Island as a rather wiser entity, but now...I don't see it the same way as I used to. I don't think that the Island can be trusted anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 10:25:33 PM »
Quote from: mickyg on November 01, 2006, 10:04:50 PM
im not sure i understand the question


The monster was following Eko from the beginning of the epi, he appeared himself as his brother.  In the past, there have been other apparitions of people to some of the losties ... Jack (his father); Kate ( a horse); etc.  Anyway, the monster tonite showed himself to Locke as a beautiful light but to eko as the black smoke.  My question is not really a question.  I was (and others in this site) thought the monster was a remenant security system from dharma but now that we know that the others know everything about the past of the losties, I think the monster is a way to manipulate/play a game on the losties, and I speculate at the time that it is a type of system to keep the losties in check but at the orders of Ben and not Dharma.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 10:27:11 PM »
Quote from: dharma_infinity on November 01, 2006, 10:24:00 PM
Ok, I'm not exactly sure why I got merged....anyways...

Quote from: Creampop on November 01, 2006, 10:21:35 PM
Eko didn't confess and I am wondering if that is the point... if Eko had repented would he have lived???

I really don't know, but something tells me it wouldn't have. I've always seen the Island as a rather wiser entity, but now...I don't see it the same way as I used to. I don't think that the Island can be trusted anymore.

How can this be the island?  it must be a human entity who thinks it can exact its version of morality on the rest....
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 10:29:12 PM »
Quote from: Creampop on November 01, 2006, 10:21:35 PM
Eko didn't confess and I am wondering if that is the point... if Eko had repented would he have lived???

That is what I was trying to get across.  Whoever was listening did not like that he was not forgiving for what he did, so they killed him.  To me Ben looks at himself as a Godly type figure, maybe he laid down his judgement on Eko.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 10:31:30 PM »
Quote from: vanyvrgs on November 01, 2006, 10:27:11 PM
How can this be the island?  it must be a human entity who thinks it can exact its version of morality on the rest....

How? I don't believe that is possible with the Islands behavior. Unless, the Island itself has a human conscience....wow, I'm gonna make a theory on this now.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 10:34:18 PM »
I was under the impression that there wasn't supposed to be any hocus pocus/crap for the events happening here...I've read about the nanite or mini computer bugs etc. but the smoke monster killing Eko....
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